本帖最后由 赤口大人 于 2017-3-30 22:03 编辑
英文網站的總結:http://clarste.tumblr.com/post/1 ... -in-the-alternative
個人翻譯:
First Hecatia gives a brief history of Hell: It’s usually thought of a prison-like world for sinners to be punished in after they die, but originally it was just a world created by and for incredibly selfish people who valued true freedom above all else (ie: Chaotic Neutral/Evil). They didn’t give a flip about humanity one way or another: the seas of fire were just there to cook their meat, and the seas of blood were just in case they ever got thirsty. However, at some point there was a social movement to create order, and the Yama and Kishin took things over for the whole “afterlife” thing. The older residents, like Hecatia, all have their own opinions, but she doesn’t especially mind. Some of the people who still value personal freedom have left to create their own new hells, but they aren’t really relevant.
首先,赫卡提亞簡述了地獄歷史:
通常它被視為懲罰罪人的牢獄型場所
但其實這世界當初只是被特別自私的人而創造,也是為了這類崇尚真正自由剩餘一切的人而創造的世界
祂們根本不鳥人類
火之海只是用來烤肉,血池指是用來解渴用的
但在某個時點開始,有個"創造社會秩序的社會運動"
然後閻魔與鬼神就開始管理"來世"事務
如赫卡提亞那樣的其他舊居民,都對此有自己的看法
但她並不是特別介意
那些依然珍視個人自由的人已經離開並創造自己的新地獄
但祂們跟此並不是很有關係
Next, Hecatia talks about immigration. Specifically, Aya brings up the fear that immigrants from Hell will see the relatively prosperous Gensokyo as a feeding grounds and bring chaos and disorder. Hecatia points out that a birdcage with no holes for air to pass through is nothing more than a death trap. A steady influx of new ideas is necessary for the long-term survival of a society. And even if you think the people of Hell are too inherently destructive, excluding them entirely will merely piss off the people already inside who sympathize with them. It’s fundamentally impossible to preserve the social order merely by excluding people. At best it’s an illusion. And doesn’t Gensokyo take pride in accepting anyone? That’s its whole appeal.
接著,赫卡提亞開始提移民問題
文文怕地獄移民會給相對繁榮的幻想鄉帶來混亂與無序
赫卡提亞指出"一個完全密閉的鳥籠不過是死亡陷阱"
穩定的新思潮對於一個社會的長久生存是必要的(想到紫的行動......)
就算認為地獄居民天生破壞性強
完全排除他們只會激怒那些同情祂們並早以在那裏面的人
借由完全排除他人來維護社會秩序是不可能的
最多只是幻象
然後幻想鄉不是以接受一切為榮?
Which naturally leads us to the Lunar Capital, that most obvious example of “order by exclusion”. Of all the worlds, they are literally the worst. They exclude everyone to construct a false paradise for themselves. They love insulting people, but have the thinnest skin of anyone. And more to the point, they don’t respect other ways of living. Hell and Gensokyo have their differences, but ultimately they can get along, but the Lunarians can’t get along with anyone. One of them has the power to twist the truth to serve their own ends, using lazy reporters like Aya to spread falsehoods (“hey!” says Aya) and change the perception of what “truth” even is. She goes on to insult the magazine.
然後我們就談到了月之都
月人是"以排除來維持秩序"的代表,是所有異世界中最惡的部類
祂們將其他人都排除以創造一個虛假的樂園
祂們喜歡貶低祂人,卻也是最玻璃心的
然後重點是,祂們不尊重其他生活方式
地獄與幻想鄉有他們的相異處
但最終是可以和平相處的
但月之民是無法與其他人和平共處的
月之民的一人擁有"扭曲事實以為自身目的服務"
利用懶惰記者如文文來傳播假消息
並且改變了對"真實"的視角
接著赫卡提亞又開始嘲諷週刊誌
Changing the subject, Clownpiece. Hecatia basically sent her to Gensokyo as a reward for completing a big job (the siege of the moon). Aya is skeptical, saying it’s clearly an aggressive move by Hell. Hecatia emphasizes that she only sees the moon as the enemy, and would like to get along with Gensokyo. Going back to Clownpiece, Aya notes that fairies are basically just background noise on the surface. In Hell though, they truly believe in the strongest rising to the top, so there are irrelevant Kishin and super-important fairies. Clownpiece is strong for a fairy, so Hecatia values her highly. Aya wishes tengu society were like that, because no matter how hard she works she’ll never move beyond her caste. Naturally, Hecatia invites her to come live in Hell, but points out that it’s not all good. At least Aya is guaranteed a position: in Hell people who fail even once usually sink to the bottom and can’t ever climb out of it. And those who aren’t blessed from the beginning would probably be happier dead. It is, after all, Hell.
地獄妖精的部分
赫卡提亞基本上是把她送到幻想鄉,做為完成大事業的獎賞(月都侵攻)
文文對此表示懷疑,認為這對於地獄是很侵略性的一步
赫卡提亞強調祂只視月都為敵,而較願意與幻想鄉和平相處
回到地獄妖精,文文說妖精基本上在地上只是背景的噪音
在地獄,卻真心相信強者至上
所以有不重要的鬼神與非常重要的妖精
克勞恩皮絲做為妖精很強大,所以赫卡提亞對她很讚賞
文文希望天狗社會也能這樣
因為不管她多努力,她都無法前往更高的階級
所以赫卡提亞邀請她去地獄,但也指出那也未必是好的
至少文文有鐵飯碗
在地獄的人如果失敗一次,就會被丟到最底層而無法再爬回來
然後那些不是一開始就被祝福的(意思是先天條件不夠好的?)
可能死掉還比較快樂,那畢竟是地獄
Hecatia personally would like to have peaceful relations with Gensokyo, but Hell is all about freedom so everyone has different ideas. Some want to conquer it, some want to destroy the entire universe, etc etc. It’s Hell. But as long as she’s attaching herself to Gensokyo it’ll be difficult for anyone to make a move on it. Not because she has any control over their society—she describes herself as an “outlaw"—but because she’s super-strong and no one wants to mess with her. The absolute freedom of absolute power. "Goddess” is just a title given to such absolute powers.
赫卡提亞私下希望能與幻想鄉有和平關係
但因為地獄自由至上,所以大家都有不同想法
有些想征服,有些想毀滅全宇宙等等
這是地獄,但只要她與幻想鄉還有聯繫
其他勢力就很難對其出手
不是因為她對她們的社會有什麼控制權(她形容自己是法外之徒)
而是因為她強到沒人想惹火她
至高的自由就是絕對的力量
"女神"只是給予有這樣絕對力量者的頭銜
She ends the interview with a summary of her points: you can’t isolate any society completely, so building a wall or excluding others is pointless. Just think of them as neighbors. Just some advice from a goddess.
女神大人的結語:
你不能完全孤立一個社會
所以築牆或者排除他者是無意義的
只要把他們想成鄰居即可
這是來自女神的小小建議
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