【太平洋对面的绅士你们好】一些有关觉在/jp/ - Otaku Culture上被讨论到时的翻译

TGWmkI

艹，40k还真是影响深远，能把觉跟Astropath扯上…
Astropath星语者，在战锤40k中其超能力能为人类的宇航活动提供跨亚空间的超远程（以光年计的）通讯联络，以及提供预言之类的特殊服务

但说真的，俺很怀疑那老外究竟知不知道他说的是啥，星语者大多都是瞎子（至少在外貌上看起来如此）；而战锤40K里另有一种灵能者Navigator，既导航者，这群人才是在外貌上存在着可辨识的第三只眼。俺高度怀疑那老外把这两类人搞混了。毕竟战锤的世界观实在是过于浩瀚

colohot

老外的讨论也总是那么不正经呢，还有绅士也很多
对于小五的第三只眼……我还是宁愿去画翅膀，那个眼睛的线总是不晓得怎么绕的，如果真的是血管或神经的话末端是插到哪的啊

射命丸·文

我突然感觉“觉”这个种族好可怕啊。
话说外国的东方相关讨论也不少呢，不过确实……有点没下限啊

Paradox

那么这回第三期的开版主题是：“I want to be Satoriin's pet!”

据说（毫无根据）是最多觉党选择要堵在地灵殿的门前向小觉当面许愿的事情！

那在4chan上这又会发生什么景象呢——

【众绅士们人头攒动，跑题的跑题，扭打的扭打……】

差不多就是这样。

（切换）总而言之为节约版面适当的解说便还是由我来

下面就有请我们的第一位绅士出场吧~


【23、开题版头】

I want to be Satoriin's pet!

“我想做小觉的宠物！”

me 2

“附议。”

I'd rather be Patchouli's pet. I'd sit on her shoulder and whisper cute things.

“我倒更想做帕秋莉的宠物。我会坐在她的肩膀上对她咬耳朵说可爱的事情。”

我们中出了一个歪楼的叛徒。

She'd probably forget to feed and play with you, though, being so busy.

“但估计她会忘记来喂食以及陪你玩，嘛，过得那么忙。”

I want to pet Satoriin.

“我可想养小觉了。”

好刀，以及生命不息，歪楼不止。


【24】

Satoriin using your deepest fears to reduce you to a compliant shell of a man!

“（回复楼主）小觉利用你内心最深的恐惧把你削成了一个只披着人皮的犬仆！”

But that's what I already am.

“但我已经就是那副样子了。”

I am scarier than anything I fear. Satorin's fucked.

“我比我所恐惧的任何事情都更加可怕。然后小觉就跪啦。”

放弃治疗，这里有各种放弃治疗的啊喂！


【25】

Is Satori lonely? It seems like all the other 2hus fear and revile her and try to avoid her.

I want to be friends with Satorin!

“觉寂寞吗？貌似别的少女们都惧怕并且谩骂并且回避她。

我要和小觉做朋友！”

She's not lonely. She has her pets!

“她可不寂寞。她有她的宠物！”

would I no longer be lonely if I had a pet?

“如果我有个宠物，那我也会不再寂寞吗？”

别说的这么寂寞啊，听到了小觉会难过的！

You could become her pet!

“你可以去当她的宠物！”

这个逆向思考好。


【26】

How would Satori react to meeting a schizophrenic or some other deeply mentally unhinged person?

“觉会对那些患精神分裂的或其他严重心里缺弦的怎么反应？”

She writes books about psychology and stuff according to Akyu, I'm pretty sure she is familiar with mental diseases already and has probably very deep understandings of them.

“根据阿求所述她写有关心理学方面的书，我敢肯定她已经对心理疾病相当之熟悉了，没准还有着很深的理解。”

那顺便在家门口开一间小诊所吧觉。


【27、带图】

I need more flustered Satori.

“我需要更多的脸好红的觉。”

You expect a hundreds-years-old mind reader to be flustered? What a great and intoxicating innocence. How could you be so naive?

“你指望一个活过了上百年的读心者失守心神？真是比蜜糖还要天真。你为什么不去多读点书再回来？”

……

Bitch doesn't know about goatse, lemonparty, 2girls1cup, meatspin...

I'm sure most of us saw worse things than her.

“【哔】并不会知道【哔】、【哔】、【哔】、【哔】……

我肯定我们中大多数比她见过还要更糟糕的事情。”

I'm pretty sure underground Gensokyo has things more fucked up than some amateur porn videos.

“我敢打包票说幻想乡的地底有的是比爱情动作片更【哔】的事情。”

I'm pretty sure she will be shocked as hell after reading my mind.

“我（也）敢打包票说她在读过了我的念头之后会被吓成一团的。”

眼睛！我的眼睛！


【28】

I want to protect that worried expression.

“我想保护她不再有那种忧愁的表情。”

I want to maintain that worried expression.

“我（倒是）想维持她一直有那种忧愁的表情。”

请后面的这位不要没事就欺负小觉玩好吗


【29】

Do you think she'll read love through her third eye?

“你们认为她能够通过第三只眼读到爱吗？”

I don't know much about love, but I know this is an emotion, not a thought. She probably just reads things like "I want to stay with Satori forever", "she's so cute", "I love her", "I wonder how our kids will look like", and "I must a really small ring for her really cute finger".

“爱什么的我并不是很懂，但我知道那是一种感情，而非想法。她也许只读得到像这些‘我想和觉在一起过一辈子’，‘她实在是太可爱了’，‘我爱她’，‘我在想我们的孩子看起来会像谁’和‘我得有一个小小的戒指好配得上她那多可爱的小手指’”

这个发言实在太厉害，如果是在微博上的话我已经就加为好友并关注了！


【30】

Would you serve Satori even if it meant staying underground forever and never seeing the light of day again?

“你会想服侍觉吗，即使那意味着要永远待在地底再也见不到阳光？”

Of course. Anybody who wouldn't might need to get their head checked.

“当然。任何不这么想的人都应该去查查看他的脑袋有没有问题。”

I'm already not seeing the light of day. Now you're saying a cute girl gets added?

“我已经没再见着阳光了。现在你告诉我可以来个可爱的女孩子？”

额……想要同时吐槽到这两回复真的是好有难度。


【31、带图】

Strong, confident Satori or shy, embarrassed Satori?

“强大、自信的觉还是害羞、窘窘的觉（好）？”

Both.

“都（好）。”

Flipped-switch Satori is ok too.

“有个开关一拨就变的觉也很不错。”

而我则想成为能够拨得着那个开关的人。


【32】

Can Satori only read minds or can she do other things like mind-rape, erase memories, etc?

“觉是只能够读心呢，还是还可以办到别的像精神凌虐、记忆消除、等等之类的事情？”

She's can do some hypnosis, but I don't think anywhere near that extent.

“她懂得一些催眠，但是我想不出来这有什么用。”

Mind rape is pretty easily possible through the normal methods though, even if her power doesn't directly do it.

“精神凌虐有些通常的办法就已经是小Case了，就算以她的能力没法直接办到。”

你们真应该去手选地灵殿HARD难度来上个几盘的。


【33】

I want to make babies with Satori!

“我想跟觉生孩子！”

【接着这位回复者只是贴了一张图，其中觉正在说……】
觉：“Make me……Pregnant too.”
觉：“请让我……也怀上孕。”

You wouldn't cheat on Satori, right, anon?

“（接着回复道）你不应该背叛觉的，对吧，无脸男？”

Only with Koishi. Those night time visits get confusing sometimes, if you get my drift.

“除非是和恋。在那些夜晚上见面有时会变得暧昧难解，如果你明白我的意思的话。”

You're horrible.

“你真是禽兽。”

Can you truely say you love a girl if you don't love her family as well?

“你可以真的说爱一个女孩子，却对她的家人不一视同仁吗？”

他说得真是好有道理，我发现我竟然无言以对


【34、带图】

I want a Satori Sukusuku plushie so that I can give it to my daughter.

I also want a daughter so I can have an excuse to buy two Satori plushies.

“我想要一个小觉球好送给我的女儿。

我还想要一个女儿那样我就有借口去买两个小觉球了。”

可怜的阿宅到最后也既没有女儿又没有小觉球。


【35】

I want to say nice things to Satori and fill her up with nothing but warm thoughts.

Unfortunately if I knew someone could read my mind I couldn't help but constantly think of lewd or disgusting things.


She'd probably hate me for the things I think, now that I think about it.

“我想对觉说一些温柔的话并使她洋溢着温暖的想法。

但不幸的是如果我知道有个人可以读取我的思想那我就不禁会一直在想些邪恶或者恶心的事情。


她肯定会因此而讨厌我的，现在我意识到这个问题了。”

Maybe a tin foil hat will help

“也许一顶锡箔纸做的帽子能够帮到你。”

节操呢。


【36】

I want to rub Satorin's third eye.

“我好想蹭蹭看小觉的第三只眼。”

She wouldn't like that, anon.. it's sensitive..

“她不会喜欢这的，无脸男...那个很敏感的。”

Why is it sensitive? Would it hurt if she accidentally stepped on one of her tubes?

“怎么敏感了？如果她不小心踩到了她自己的一根管子那会疼吗？”

Probably. It's a part of her, after all.

“应该吧。那是她身体的一部分，不管怎么说。”

is it prehensile like Koishi's?

“那像恋的一样好使吗？（指恋可以用之攻击捕获对手——参见心琦楼）”

I have no idea.

“我不知道。”

It's fun to wonder though, right?

“想想看这不是很有意思吗，没错吧？”

Yeah, she probably chooses not to use them like Koishi does.

“是啊，可能她是选择不去像恋那样子使用它们吧。”

Nah, I think Koishi's are tough, like arms, but Satori's are sensitive, like tongues.

“呐，我想恋的是很强壮，就像手臂，但觉的却很敏感，就像舌头。”

再一次一本正经的讨论最后却得出了奇怪的结论。


【37】

What is Satori's perfect mate?

“跟觉天生一对是说啥样子的？”

Someone cultivated enough to have talk with during the evening, after dinner.
Someone loyal enough to stay by her side.
Someone reasonable enough to call her when he can't fix the situation by himself.
Someone gentle enough to make love to her without breaking her still immature body.

And someone who isn't allergic to animals.


In short, NOBODY ON 4CHAN.

“一位有着足够教养可以在夜里与之长谈的人，在用完正餐之后。
一位有着足够忠诚会支持站在她这边的人。
一位有着足够理性当大男子主义无法解决问题的时候会求助于她的人。
一位有着足够温柔在合欢时不会伤害到她那还未发育完全的身体的人。

还得是一位不对动物过敏的人。


简而言之，4Chan上没这号人。”

本日最佳，这绝对是本日最佳！


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gqyyyy

看样子国外绅士颇多啊
那你会压着她管子的

萌魂

想法真是太可爱啦www
外语聚聚给跪了

觉的眼睛和管子是什么感觉呢..真想放进嘴里含着

Paradox

本回第四期以及第五期的开版主题是“Playing with Satori!”&“If someone's thoughts were in a foreign language……”

因为这回光是一个Thread里面的内容条数有点少（其实两栏加起来之后也不算多OAO

不过别被第一个看似好甜的标题给骗了，讨论到后来甚至出现了一些相当不愉快的事情……（因为见地不同争执到最后发展为谩骂，我就不去翻那些拌嘴的部分了）

另外这回的讨论有点黑暗向，若您的PsychoPass每逢周五凌晨的00:30后都会上涨，浏览前请自备好药丸。

那么就开始吧~


【38、开版题头】

Playing with Satori!

“和小觉玩耍！”

Playing? Looks like sexual harassment to me.

“玩耍？在我看来这怎么都像是在性骚扰。”

You are objectively wrong.

“你这么说就错了。”

He is pulling her skirt up against her wishes and she is crying. I'm not sure how else to interpret it.

“他在拽起她的裙子并不顾她的意愿及正在哭泣。我不知道这还有什么别的可解释的。”

Satori should be happy she's getting attention. While he's pulling her skirt, he's not throwing stones at her while calling her a monster.

“觉应该为得了关注而感到高兴。且他只是在拽她的裙子，又不是在边对她丢石子边喊她为怪物。”

想起「童年不好的回忆」……

I'd always heard that sexual harrassment was something bad. It looks awesome!

“我一直听人说性骚扰是一件不对的事情。但这看起来好棒！”

犯罪预备军一员发现。


【39】

Neither of these should be considered acceptable.

“（指拽裙子以及令她哭泣）这里面没有哪件是可以接受的事情。”

Considering what kind of abomination she is, as I said, she should be happy the guy is just pulling her skirt. Other would do worse.

“考虑到她是一个怎样的令人憎恶的生物，我说过了，她真得好好高兴这位只是在拽她的裙子。换个人会做得更坏。”

从这个发言中隐隐就感觉到了恶意……

She is not an abomination, she is a cute girl.

“她不是令人憎恶的生物，她是个可爱的女孩子。”

She's a cannibal (or rather, humanitarian) monster who can read your mind and knows exactly how to break you before consuming you while you're still alive.

And if you're still breathing after she ate your limbs, she'll feed you to her pet. The raven will start by pecking your eyes, while the cat will scratch you slowly and slowly, tenderly skinning you alive.

Why do you think she's in charge of Hell?

“她是一个食人的（还是说，博爱的）怪物，懂得读心并清楚地知道该怎样先玩坏你再享用，趁在你还活着的时候。

并且如果你在她吃掉你的四肢后还有呼吸，她就会把你丢去喂她的宠物们。乌鸦会从啄你的眼睛开始下嘴，同时猫会油库里油库里地抓挠着，一片一片地把你给活剥了。

你以为她是怎么会掌管着地狱的？”

地底的暴君觉大人吗……？那我家的小觉也绝不是这样！


【40】

Perhaps some punishment would be good for you.

“没准你这人得吃点惩罚才好。”

But I like my skin when it's on my body instead of hanging here like a curtain.

“但我喜欢我的皮还好好地贴在身上，而不是像一张窗帘那样被挂起来。”

I don't think she'd do that to you.

“我不认为她会对你这么做的。”

Of course not.

She has pets to do it for her.

“当然不会。

她有宠物替她打这些下手。”

I don't think she'd have them do that... unless you deserve it. Do you deserve it?

“我不认为她会命令它们去做……除非你合该如此。你觉得呢？”

Do you really need to deserve it? Don't forget she's a hateful youkai. Not only her morale is completely different from human beings, but she also hates everything and everyone disturbing her.

“你认为这真的需要理由吗？别忘了她是一个可憎的妖怪。不光她的道德准则同人类完全不一样，她就痛恨任何打搅到她的事和人。”

这种难以插入吐槽的气氛真是……也许大家也看得不痛快吧。


【41】

Have you played SA? She's polite (aside from interrupting you) and invites you in for tea. Where are you getting your information?

“你玩过地灵殿吗？她很礼貌（除了会打断你讲话）并邀请你坐下来喝茶。你是从哪听来你那些的？”

She's facing a flying human who blew up the town around the palace. Of course she's be groveling in front of something more powerful than her.

Doesn't keep her from trying to backstab you with her trauma attack.

“她当时在面对着一个刚碾压过了地灵殿外面的小镇会飞的人类。她当然是在一个比她更强大的存在面前卑躬屈节了。

而这并未阻止她试着用创伤攻击来从你背后捅上一刀。”

She was hardly groveling, she was being polite. You just need to admit Satori is a nice lady and apologize for bad mouthing her.

“她那根本不是卑躬屈节，而是彬彬有礼。你只需要承认觉是位好女士并为你那夸大抹黑她的举动道歉就是了。”

>apologizing to a cannibal youkai

“（向一个吃人的妖怪道歉”

接着就演变成没有实质意义的谩骂了，欣赏匿名一（二？）设讨论的话，可以到此为止了。


【42】

Poor Satori. I just want hug her and tell her everything will be alright. After all she goes through, I'd be honored to be the one she turns to for comfort.

“可怜的小觉。我只想此时抱住她并告诉她一切都会好起来的。在她捱过这一切之后，我会为能成为她寻求慰藉的对象而感到荣幸的。”

And then you use that trust to lure into your clutches, right? Then the ropes, drugs, and dicks come out, right? You're not fooling anyone!

“然后你就要利用这信任去引诱她投怀送抱了，对不对？然后绳索、迷药，跟那活就都出来了，对不对？你糊弄不了谁的！”

Absolutely not! I just want to be Satori's friend. Being close enough to Satori to be one of the few people she's comfortable enough to confide in would be a great honor. Having her bury her head in my chest and tell me about her troubles while holding her in my loving embrace is one of the greatest pleasures I can imagine.

“绝对不会！我只是想成为觉的朋友。能够与觉走近到成为少数不多的她愿意去倾诉的人是件极大的荣幸。能够有她埋着她的头在我怀里，对我诉说她遇到的困难，而我将用爱去抱紧她，这是我能想象到的最大的幸福。”

唔……要都是真的话也不是不可以让你接近觉哦。（拖


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如题科宅向，但还是来试着欣赏转换一下气氛吧。


【43、开版题头】

If someone's thoughts were in a foreign language Satori didn't know, would she still be able to understand what they were thinking?

“如果一个人想的是觉所不知道的外国语言，那她还能理解他们正在想什么吗？”

Thoughts aren't actually in languages, you just interpret thoughts in a language you understand. Take a look at deaf people or animals. They don't need language to think about anything.

“想法实际上并不是用的语言，你只是在通过你理解的语言来解译想法。看看聋人跟动物们。他们思考任何事情都不需要用到语言。”

Language shapes our perceptions though. There's a reason "deaf culture" is a thing.

“但语言还是在影响塑形着我们的认知。这就是为什么会有‘聋人文化’。”

I don't follow.

“我没明白。”

我也……没太跟上？

deaf people don't really have a "voice in their head" of sorts, so thinking to themselves is totally different, it's also why deaf people have a high illeteracy rate; reading doesn't come naturally because they cant hear the pronunciations.

“聋人并没有所说的‘脑海里的声音’之类的，因此对他们而言思考是截然不同的，这也是为什么聋人有着很高的文盲率；阅读是不自然的，因为他们听不出发音。”

I don't have a voice in my head. Are you schizophrenic?

“我脑海里就没有声音。你是精分吗？”

有话好好说，另外你们到这会儿谁都没给出个正面的答案啊……

she has a google chrome in her eye.

"this mind is in [latin]. would you like to translate it?"

“她的第三只眼内置了谷歌浏览器。

‘这个意识是[拉丁语]的。你需要翻译一下吗？’”

至少这位相信行，那我也就这么信了。


【44】

Yes, we think in pictures.

“没错，我们是以图片的方式来进行思考的。”

can you proof that

“你能证明么”

Can you disproof it?

“你能证明不是吗？”

What if God was one of us?

“如果上帝是在我们当中的呢？”

Could Mozart be still alive?

“莫扎特会还活着吗？”

damn /jp/ is jus philosophisophical

“哦艹绅士们真的是太思哲了”

这句也必须得点个赞！


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colohot

中间的那个话题好像不怎么愉快呢，幻想乡黑暗论啊……那位仁兄一直认为妖怪都吃人的么
被日最佳太棒了！！
in short,nobody on miaoyu,too

johnandjune

老外真紳士

M9999

Think of it as a regular eye, tuned to a wavelength unseen by human eyes (presumably one wherein brain waves are contained). Something like the 40k Astropaths' third eyes that can see into the Warp independently of the two human eyes.

That also makes Satori's ability super heretical.

觉是星语者，领航员……
脑补了一下觉挂着满身纸条站在星炬厅里的场景……